Is Wales becoming an indy-curious nation?
Mark Drakeford says union support "unambiguous"
Mr Drakeford's lecture coincided with the publication of "Reforming Our Union", a Welsh Government paper that spells out constitutional reforms ministers in Cardiff believe the UK needs.
The document says that whatever the UK's historical origins, it is "best seen now as a voluntary associations of nations taking the form of a multi-national state".
It argues that in a voluntary association the union "must be open to any of its parts democratically to choose to withdraw from the Union".
"If this were not so, a nation could conceivably be bound into the UK against its will, a situation both undemocratic and inconsistent with the idea of a Union based on shared values and interests."
A government in either Scotland or Wales that "has secured an explicit electoral mandate for holding of a referendum, and enjoys continuing support from its parliament to do so, it is entitled to expect the UK Parliament to take whatever action is necessary to ensure that the appropriate arrangements can be made", the paper says.
However, the Welsh Government said it would be unreasonable for such referendums to be held too frequently.
The paper added: "As a government committed to the United Kingdom, we would hope that in any such referendum the relevant electorate would vote for its territory to remain in membership of the UK."
Mark Drakeford told the Merthyr lecture that there must be an "explicit, legal recognition" that the National Assembly for Wales "is a permanent feature of the UK's democratic architecture", which can only be abolished by referendum.
A settlement is needed, he said, where the powers of the devolved parliaments and governments around the UK are exercised "exclusively at that level, other than by the consent of the legislatures involved".
He said the parliamentary sovereignty model - where the UK Parliament is the highest form of authority in the UK - does not "provide a basis for the future".
He made the case for the UK as one where "unity and solidarity are the means by which the interests of the many... can be advanced".
Adam Price, Plaid Cymru leader, said: "It is disappointing - if not surprising - that the Labour Welsh Government continues to defend this indefensible union.
"Any short term steps that help get Wales indy-ready are welcome. But the Welsh Government should concentrate on building the Wales of tomorrow, not saving the union.
"The pooling and sharing of risks and resources is, frankly, a fanciful idea. Westminster has always been all risk and no reward for Wales."
Plaid Cymru demanded an apology for Mr Drakeford's comment in the Kier Hardie lecture that Plaid "attempt to blame the English for all our present discontents".
London-born Liz Saville Roberts, the party's Westminster leader, said it was a "baseless attempted smear".
"This past week alone, Adam Price has crassly co-opted the language of 'reparations', while ignoring Wales' own involvement in empire," a Welsh Labour spokesman said.